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Keithy P
07-02-2010, 21:00
I thought Id put this up as I know there are a couple of keen fly fickers on board. I got this little fellow this arvo, 54cm so he was safe from becoming burgers. My first fish on fly!!!
BigFella
07-02-2010, 21:52
Awesome catch Dude:D
There just isnt any better way of catching or stalking a fish than with fly!
Makes a whole new sport of the past time.2thumbsup
Yeah, well done Keith.2thumbsup
Nice Mateeeeeee! ;)
That size would make for nice eating wouldnt it?
Could u compare them to eating jewies with size, Like the smaller ones are alot better on the tooth?
fishmagnet
08-02-2010, 13:18
That's not bad for a first fish on fly. Must have given you a crackin fight.
I think my first fish on fly was a 2 pound Rainbow Trout, not a patch on a 54cm Barra.
Pirate Pete
08-02-2010, 18:10
Top Job 2thumbsup 2thumbsup 2thumbsup
Well done, m'dear chap. Someone has to keep up our end amongst these common dead prawn draggers (and it hasn't been me for many months now)
Keithy P
08-02-2010, 20:10
Cheers Blokes!
I tried again today but couldn't scratch up a hint of interest.
Zutta, they are good eating at that size, here QLD "size" is 58cm. In WA legal size limit is 55cm. In the Kimberly I used to keep them between 55 and 65 preferably. The picture is fairly average due to my ailing camera but you can sort of see how his scales fins are quite black, this little chap has come down from the fresh water so he probebly wouldn't be that great eating, freshies tend to be a little soft and muddy. He has come down to the briney to find a big shiny girl and get his rocks off!
Fishmagnet, I dont know anything about trout but 2 lb sounds like a big trout to me.
Thanks again fellas, I'll keep trying for a grown up.
Keith
Just for fun I thought I'd upload a pic of one I got a guest onto in the Kimberly a "few" years ago. He doesnt look it but that bloke was huge, I'm the little fellow at the business end of the fish with the funny hat.
Pirate Pete
08-02-2010, 20:59
gr mumble mumble grrrrrr why dont we get fish like that in Tassie.
bushbeachboy
09-02-2010, 08:12
OHMIGAWD!!!! The fly swatters are coming out of the woodwork now.laugh1
Pete, I thought the bream were that big in Tassie. From what I've been reading, they might even be bigger. I've been thinking of moving to Tassie lately you know. It's too bloody hot up here.:D
Pirate Pete
09-02-2010, 12:38
Despite all my intentions I have never caught any Bream, doh doh doh
but I do think they can go to the 43cm mark.
Yeah, must have a crack at bream one day. Apparently the Derwent estuary is a prime spot and it's only 500m from my door (in a straight line, bit further by road) and yet I have never seriously fished it. Sea run trout are another target species in the estuary which I am yet to target.shock
They're very tricky little buggers, Barry. They make trout look foolhardy when it comes to spookiness. We have dozens under the jetty, well fed on bread. Officially I'm not allowed to fish for them (wife says it would be like shooting the budgie and says she knows them all by name!) but sometimes I'll try them with a "bread fly". They will have a cautious look at it and then give me the finger (?fin) of scorn and move on.
Tiny mouths and good teeth so use small but hardy (in joke for fly fishermen) flies.
Thanks for the advice Doug.:)
try using a real of bread on the hook Doug, that may work.
Paul
Keithy P
09-02-2010, 22:40
You would not bloody believe it!!!!! I have been waiting and waiting for that bloody rod to arrive, you blokes would have a fair idea the price of the bloody thing. I was working working, doing my business, I went to drop off a couple of colleagues in a boat, I come back, one of my blokes says "I have a bit of a confession to make, I broke your rod" I said "Bulls#*t, you did not", he says yes I did . The silly bastard had taken it out the back while I was gone and done god knows what to it and broken the bloody tip off!!!! Hes all, " I'll buy you a new one". Geezus!!!!! thats not the bloody point!!! Needless to say I said a few words that I cant type on the forum..... And this isn't a kid we are talking about, he's nearly bloody 50 years old! (no offence intended to anyone except me clumsy friend).
I guess in another two weeks I can continue my quest for barraburgers from fly.... BASTERD!!!!
Keith,
My heart bleeds for you! I bought a fly rod in NZ that isn't imported to Australia. Because it was 2 cm longer than whatever NZ Post can cope with it was going to cost about $100 to post it to Oz. My guide mate over there gave it to a Sydneysider to bring back to Oz. I had the devil's own job getting this cretin to post it on to me in Qld. After about 10 weeks I got it!
I rigged it, went out to the front yard and had a few (fantastic) casts with it, and went back into the house, feeling pleased with myself....................except that the closing screen door AMPUTATED the top 100mm of the rod!!!!. Words I didn't know I had in me were said. The wife took the dogs into the yard in case they ran away. Children four streets away took cover and called the help line.
I eventually calmed down and took the rod to the local tackle shop who replaced the final runner for $15 and I'm buggered if I can tell the difference. Sometimes I suspect that there's a lot of crap written about fly gear! If I had four inches taken off my tip then I would expect it to perform differently, but then I was pretty big to begin with. (Miss Jane, please cover your eyes.)
Keithy P
09-02-2010, 23:43
Oh thats freaken terrible Doug! you certainly put it all into perspective, at least I caught a fish on mine. And 10 weeks... I think I would have lost my mind through sleep deprevation waiting for a toy that long. And the rest of you blokes... your always making fun of poor Doug when he has had such a traumatic experience.. shame on you!!
Thanks mate.
I set up my 6wt rod one night ready for an early morning session on tailing fish and slipped it into the rod tube; just as I was closing the zip, I was distracted and "snip", lost about 25mm off the top. Into the tackle shop first thing Monday and arranged a replacement rod (gotta love the Loomis Expeditor program) but trouble was that there wasn't another 9'6" 6wt in Aus; delivery was going to be about 8 weeks.
Three weeks later, bush bashing between a couple of remote lakes in the Central Highlands of Tassie. Managed to get the rod tangled in some tea tree scrub and "snip" - there goes about 50mm off the tip of my 4wt. Snipped the broekn tip off almost back to the second runner and continued fishing (spare rod was about 5 hours walk away) and continued fishing.
Another Loomis Expeditor job!!!!!!!!!!!! This time, they had a 4wt in stock in Aus and that arrived a week later. Luckily, the 6 wt had arrived in Aus in the meantime and I was able to pick up both rods at the same time.
Pirate Pete
10-02-2010, 17:25
I set up my 6wt rod one night ready for an early morning session on tailing fish and slipped it into the rod tube; just as I was closing the zip, I was distracted and "snip", lost about 25mm off the top. Into the tackle shop first thing Monday and arranged a replacement rod (gotta love the Loomis Expeditor program) but trouble was that there wasn't another 9'6" 6wt in Aus; delivery was going to be about 8 weeks.
Three weeks later, bush bashing between a couple of remote lakes in the Central Highlands of Tassie. Managed to get the rod tangled in some tea tree scrub and "snip" - there goes about 50mm off the tip of my 4wt. Snipped the broekn tip off almost back to the second runner and continued fishing (spare rod was about 5 hours walk away) and continued fishing.
Another Loomis Expeditor job!!!!!!!!!!!! This time, they had a 4wt in stock in Aus and that arrived a week later. Luckily, the 6 wt had arrived in Aus in the meantime and I was able to pick up both rods at the same time.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm that all sounds a bit fishy to me Barry . . . . .sounds like I want another new rod this one is getting a bit grotty. Oooooops
Pirate Pete
10-02-2010, 17:27
Keith,
My heart bleeds for you! I bought a fly rod in NZ that isn't imported to Australia. Because it was 2 cm longer than whatever NZ Post can cope with it was going to cost about $100 to post it to Oz. My guide mate over there gave it to a Sydneysider to bring back to Oz. I had the devil's own job getting this cretin to post it on to me in Qld. After about 10 weeks I got it!
I rigged it, went out to the front yard and had a few (fantastic) casts with it, and went back into the house, feeling pleased with myself....................except that the closing screen door AMPUTATED the top 100mm of the rod!!!!. Words I didn't know I had in me were said. The wife took the dogs into the yard in case they ran away. Children four streets away took cover and called the help line.
I eventually calmed down and took the rod to the local tackle shop who replaced the final runner for $15 and I'm buggered if I can tell the difference. Sometimes I suspect that there's a lot of crap written about fly gear! If I had four inches taken off my tip then I would expect it to perform differently, but then I was pretty big to begin with. (Miss Jane, please cover your eyes.)
There is one word for that Doug.
KARMA
At $200 per time, it's an expensive exercise Pete (although admittedly the rods are around $1100 to buy new in Aus). However, if I was going to deliberately break a rod, I would make sure there was one in stock beforehand. In addition, I would wait until I got back to the car before breaking one when on a four day walk in the Western Lakes.
Pirate Pete
10-02-2010, 18:02
pointlaugh pointlaugh pointlaugh pointlaugh
KARMA
I trust you're not implying that that disaster was deserved, young Peter? I have led a blameless life, given much to God's poor and bait fishermen, and have generally tried to set an example to the lower classes.
Karma would have turned the rod into one of those new Sages at $1500 a pop, and sent me to the Bahamas to test it.
Actually, Barry, Sage give you a new one if you break it, provided they still have stock at the factory. I believe that about 20% of each run in production is "put away" for dickheads who break them. This dickhead has claimed three over the last 20 years. It's not a fast process but it does happen (just not overnight).
I have broken a Sage as well, Doug.shock Out of the two warranty systems, I prefer the Loomis version.
Keith,
"... If I had four inches taken off my tip then I would expect it to perform differently, but then I was pretty big to begin with. (Miss Jane, please cover your eyes.)
I knew this Fly fishing lark was just a big penis measuring competition... and now I understand why its called FLY!
2thumbsup
Learjohn
10-02-2010, 21:32
Are all fly fishermen this clumsy!!!!!!! dohdoh
Keithy P
10-02-2010, 22:05
Seriously Dave, of course whenever you get a bunch of blokes talking about something for long enough, eventually someone wants to whip theirs out and show it off (I know I do). And Learjohn, its not that flyfisherman are clumsy, its just that they are not afraid of taking expensive, precision instruments that are extemely tempremental and complicated to use... then flogging ths sh!t out of them... From what I've seen anyway.
I bought my rods to use and if they break in the process, so be it.
Keithy P
11-02-2010, 21:12
Barry, you have sold me! today I doctored my rod so I could have a flick while I was waiting for the new end piece, I had about half a dozen casts then smashed a clouser through the middle of the end piece I had just fixed.... shes properly broken now!!!!! I'm going to ring my supplier and get a price for a GLoomis first thing tomorrow morning. I figure maybe all fly fisherman arn't that clumsy... Learjohn... but I certainly am!!! BazzJ you should give gloomis a bell and ask for a commission!!!
Check out the US market as the A$:US$ exchange rate is still pretty favourable. I bought my 4wt through a mate who had a US contact (no longer available unfortunately) and the only reason it took 7 days to get a replacement was because my local dealer in Hobart didn't have my particular rod in stock; he had to get it sent down from NSW. No questions were asked about the source of the rod.
Y'know, Barry, the lower classes must think we Gentlemen Anglers are pretty careless with our equipmemt. What they don't understand is that our gear is precision equipment, designed to posit a fly right in front of (allowing for speed and depth) the more difficult of the species traversing our waters. It's a bit different to hurling a chunk of dead fish in front of "something out there". It's not really surprising (or it shouldn't be to those of above average intelligence) that occasionally it all turns to worms and the f*cking thing breaks. Car doors and ceiling fans are often involved.
It's terribly hard explaining how the other half live to the other, other half, innit?
True Doug. None of my breakages have occurred while fishing (well, apart from a mishap with a "bomb" on the Tongariro that is).
I have a Loomis, bought in a moment of weakness. It's got about as much guts in it as a bit of al dente spaghetti. If it broke, I'm not sure I'd bother to replace it! I suspect you and I fish at opposite ends of the fly fishing spectrum, Barry.
I would rate my 6wt Streamdance GLX HLS at marginally less stiff than a 6wt TCR (but enough of a difference to notice) and my 4wt Max GLX is probably slightly less stiff than the equivalent TCX (although I'm guessing a bit here because I haven't had a chance to cast a TCX yet).
Keithy P
11-02-2010, 23:46
eiohauugh?!?!? so what should I get to subdue and punish tropical seamonsters???
Keithy P
11-02-2010, 23:48
I did understand el dente, they taught us that at tech...
I used a 9' 10wt TFO TiCrX on my one and only foray after longtail tuna (didn't get one) but as Doug pointed out above, I don't do a lot of fishing at that end of the spectrum. I still have the rod etc just in case I go again.
Check out the Loomis, Sage, Scott and Winston sites if you want to buy a top end rod. If you buy untested from the US and don't like it when you get it here, you should be able to sell it for what you paid for it (including freight) and the local buyer will be getting a bargain as well.
http://products.gloomis.com/gl/products/landing.jsp
http://www.sageflyfish.com/
http://www.scottflyrod.com/
http://www.winstonrods.com/flyrods
http://www.flyreels.com.au/temple_fork_outfitter.htm
Edit: At the end of the day, it is much more important to have a rod which YOU feel comfortable casting than one which has a better warranty or some other feature (in your opinion). Where possible try to cast before you buy; although this introduces a problem for me (personally). I am quite happy to buy from the US but I will not go into my local retailers to test a rod and then buy off the net; if I try locally (unless it's a mate's rod), I buy locally. If the locals are good enough to stock rods and let you try them, they deserve some sort of loyalty when it comes to making the purchase. Hence my comment above about reselling if I don't like a rod I have imported.
My very first rod was a Scott - I eventually sold it and nearly gave up EVER learning to cast and then I got a Sage. Suddenly it was easy! I dare say I could cast a Scott now but it was hopeless for a learner, so Barry is quite right in what he says. No experience of Winstons, although I quite like Reddingtons.
My favourite rod is in fact the one I circumcised in the screen door - a Sciera, made in Scandinavia (Denmark, I think). Hard to get here but NZ has them. My 8 wt casts for miles.
Keithy, you need to be up about 8-10 wt for decent saltwater stuff. A lot of "experts" say 9 is a compromise weight that does everything in one rod. Get Lefty Kreh's book on SW fly fishing. He's still the "guru" IMHO.
bushbeachboy
12-02-2010, 08:53
There's something very suss about you fly swatters. Fishing with fly (down one would assume) if you are going to be able to wave your rod around. Circumcision???? How old are you? Rod shortening....sounds painful. You upper classes can keep it.pointlaugh
I own 3xSage (2wt - 7'10", 4wt - 7' & 6wtDH - 12'6"), 2xLoomis (4wt - 9' & 6wt - 9'6"), 1xScott (5wt - 9'), 1xWinston (7wt - 9'), 1xTFO (10wt - 9') and 1xInnovator (8wt). The Scott was my first rod but unlike Doug, I liked it.
Caught on a filthy fly rod no less whilst the lure boys were thrashing the water to foam.
Taken on an anorexic clouser, 10wt GLoomis (yes Doug) IMX at Hervey Bay last week.
SOT
Norm
Good one Nog!!!!! 2thumbsup2thumbsup2thumbsup2thumbsup
On the topic of rods!!!
I built up a 7w DanCraft FT907 a year or so ago (www.dancraftent,com). However, I bought it as a kit and the guides weren't that great(grooved out with my Striper IV). So in October last year I ordered Recoil single foots. After a long delay due to personal reasons from the other end they arrived a few weeks ago.
Soooo...
1. Cut old guides off
2. Clean up blank
3. Bind new ones on
4. Walk down back steps with rod to the "epoxy room"
5. Slip on bottom step
6. Fall on arse and the tip
7. Say some rather choice words
8. 9' rod is now an 8'8" with the first guide as the tip until I get a replacement tip.
Also have a 4wt FT ready to go. If you are into Very fast action rods these are the ducks ...
"10wt GLoomis (yes Doug)" - used as a harpoon, no doubt?
Good fish for Hervey Bay, Nog. That's why I suggested it for the "get-together".
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5. Slip on bottom step
6. Fall on arse and the tip
7. Say some rather choice words
8. 9' rod is now an 8'8" with the first guide as the tip until I get a replacement tip.
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:eek: shock Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Good fish for Hervey Bay, Nog. That's why I suggested it for the "get-together".
Harbour View Caravan Park is good and cheap.
Better get up there soon before the Goldies go sleepy bys.
Although the Tuna are in numbers off Wathumba. We were on the way there last weekend but stopped off at Arch Cliffs to play with some jellybeans. Then tried to start engine to keep going.........nothing....dead main battery.......used leccie battery to start then tail between our legs to the ramp and buy new crank battery.
I seem to have a run of bad luck here lately.
Last time I fished there I had to buy a new battery too. Not the cheapest place in the world to buy batteries.
Keithy P
13-02-2010, 00:06
Gentlemen, for no reason other than the fact that my supplier stocks them, I can have it up here by 11 tomorrow morning, and (as far as my mrs knows) I got it for a bloody bargain, I am now the proud owner of a ***SAGE***!!! 9" 9# !!! And I am hoping to take it out and not break it at 4:46 tomorrow arvo. Its funny, being a boisterous, foolish young man as I am, whenever I ring up that shop or drop in for a visit when I'm in town, the owner palms me off to the friendly young bloke attendant without a smile, handshake or faretheewell. Spend a F@#$%^&* FORTUNE!!!!!!! on a ***SAGE***!!! and all of a sudden I am the coolest and hippest cat on the block!!! hes on the phone having a yak (informing me that I now need a $$$$$$ reel to suit) he was extremely helpfull and informative about the care and protection of the pinnicle of angling instruments. I tell you, buy a ****SAGE****!!! be the envy of your friends and the object of womens desire... apparently.
Cheers,
I'll give my reveiw once I catch a fish.
Keith.
P.S. I had my Lecky up here today to do a bit of work, I hate it when he comes up (no offence Pirate) everytime hes here I end up digging bloody holes all day!!! anyway we went out for a fish with soft plastics after knockoff in the river and got onto these fingermark. I had never gotten a good one of these in the creek before but there was big mobs today!!!
Keithy P
13-02-2010, 02:18
Hang on a second..... woo hoo hoooooo, Bushbeachboy!!! I'm so terribly sorry my good man!!! Now I can't speak for the other fine gentlemen participating in this thread... but upperclasses?!?!? I realise that Doug is particularly well spoken and extremly well educated, with the manners of a sparkling saint and stirling scholar... and Barry J is obviously far more intelligent then you or I, but seriously BBB, upperclasses?!?!? Old Chap, I do not have an inkleing of what you may do... or where you could possibly do it.... to earn a crust that is... but I dare say... my good fellow, with a fair amount of confidence, no less.... that you probebly get paid a pretty penny more than I to do to do it, me old fruit... no doubt... no less... pip pip... carry on.
It is but a lifestyle choice, to fish, a lot, that is.... I cannot comment for others who fish with such elegant grace, skill and stoic determination, as I am not worthy of a talented flyfishermans ear-hair. But I can tell you; If you are a person of a paticular calibre... and you have caught thousands... NAY... Millions..... of XOS, PRIZE, tropical fish, on conventional tackle, you do start to look for a bit of a challenge.....
Think about it,
Keithy.
P.S. did I mention that I do tend to drink alcohole before I post my pearls of wisdom??? Be aware, there is always a good chance that I am chock-a-block full of sh!t... who knows??? not me!! that much (at least) is certain!!!
............................ I am now the proud owner of a ***SAGE***!!! 9" 9# !!! And I am hoping to take it out and not break it at 4:46 tomorrow arvo. Its ......................................
Cheers,
I'll give my reveiw once I catch a fish.
Keith. .....................................
I must admit that I would prefer something about 8'3" longer in a 9wt Keith laugh1but it sounds like you have picked up a great rod which will be deal for the sort of fishing you are doing.
hes on the phone having a yak (informing me that I now need a $$$$$$ reel to suit) he was extremely helpfull and informative about the care and protection of the pinnicle of angling instruments.
One of the down sides (if there is such a thing as a down side in fly fishing) of salt water fly fishing is that you do need a good reel with goo drag. With trout fishing, you can get away with pretty much anything to hold the line.
Pirate Pete
13-02-2010, 08:15
P.S. I had my Lecky up here today to do a bit of work, I hate it when he comes up (no offence Pirate) everytime hes here I end up digging bloody holes all day!!! anyway we went out for a fish with soft plastics after knockoff in the river and got onto these fingermark. I had never gotten a good one of these in the creek before but there was big mobs today!!!
We he must be a top bloke . . . . . . he is thinking not only of the well being of your wallet by letting you dog those holes instead of charging you for them. Think of all that exercise you got. yippy yippy
And then he went fishing with you . . . . . & you caught fish you dont usually get. . . . . . . Give me a call when you need some more work done :)
"One of the down sides (if there is such a thing as a down side in fly fishing) of salt water fly fishing is that you do need a good reel with goo drag. With trout fishing, you can get away with pretty much anything to hold the line. "
Absolutely true Barry. I still use some old reels of my father's (gotta be at least 70 years old) for light trout work, but my SW reels cost almost as much as the rods, and that's before you put about twenty miles of backing on them! Felty reels are reasonable value for money with a clever drag, but I still think cork is better than mechanical drag.
bushbeachboy
13-02-2010, 09:39
[QUOTE=Keithy P;2076] as I am not worthy of a talented flyfishermans ear-hair. QUOTE]
Neither's Doug.....laugh1
What's alcoHOLE? Is it something you brew up there in the woods? Stand by man! I'm on the way with some cement to reinforce the HOLE so it will hold some more alco....... I'm bringing my banjo too2thumbsup
But I don't think we should invite Doug or Barry, they're too upper-class southern gentlemen to appreciate the finer things in lifelaugh1
Keithy P
13-02-2010, 16:56
LOL!!!!! now yer torkin!!! good ol fashion rain-forest hoedown!!! YEEEHAW!!!
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