Poly boat in 2E Survey

[Dave]

A question more likely aimed at Glenn being a dealer

what needs to be done to a poly to make it fit the 2E survey requirements... ie float full of water with pax on board?

[marinecabs]

Dave

Rick here from Marine Cabs, Last year I went through the excercise of having all the polycraft range approved for Prototype survey in NSW, you can order a hull through Polycraft (Dealers) which will be made to spec for survey requirements, after which the hull owner must undertake a stability test to determine passenger load and layout., any queries contact me.

Rick

[BigFella]

Thanks Rick,

Dave, as Polycraft have evolved they were so focussed on model development they neglected to stay abreast of the red tape brigade!
What "we" are now doing through the assistance of people like Rick and myself we are embarking on gaining survey status for the 4.1, 4.5, 4.8, 5.3 and 5.9 models.
This will be a huge achievement for Polycraft!
It will give us dealers a huge amount of bragging status!
And will place Polycraft at the forefront for survey vessels.

Rick's work in gaining this has been instrumental, I know through personal knowledge that the powers to be are eternally grateful to Rick for his input!

What we dont need however is for mavericks or one off customers running to Waterways asking the wrong people the wrong questions!

So please until the red tape has been fully stacked away, contact either Rick (marinecabs) or myself.
We wont steal your thunder, but we will steer you in the right direction!

[DvrDve]

DPI WA
as long as a sister ship is in survey u can ask for survey as retrosepectively
the problem is that it would have had to been foam filled-the floating with water in must be with both skins pierced

this can be done by you
take a bit doing
pasco industries sells the foam -2 part mix , wait and then it goes everywhere quicker than u can think expands 300 times or some big number

costly affair- marine surveyor signs off etc trust me been there
might be easier to sell yours , and buy new one that the hull was layed to be in survey

outside of WA listen to the other blokes
my 4.1 is now in 2D

[bushbeachboy]

Exactly what does 'In Survey' mean?

Is it that the boat will float upright if filled with water?

Or that it will float upright providing certain conditions are met ie weight of loading, position of weight etc?

Or is it that the boat is self-righting ie will turn itself back upright if it is capsized?

Do the survey ratings only apply in smooth water ie a swimming pool? What happens when the load moves? Does the survey require that the boat still stay upright?

I ask because IMO a boat that will stay upright even when full of water in a bit of chop and swell is a much safer place to be than clinging onto an upturned boat trying to find your epirb etc.

[Doug]

Good question, BBB. The trouble is that it varies from state to state, and even then depends which fellow in a natty uniform that you ask.

[BigFella]

Good question, BBB. The trouble is that it varies from state to state, and even then depends which fellow in a natty uniform that you ask.

Good point Doug, this is why we are asking that anybody wanting to go down this road to make contact prior to opening that can of worms!
Ask the wrong pleb the wrong question and all hell breaks out as they seize the moment for some glory bathing!

[DvrDve]

hull floating flooded, is only part of it

survey is what commercial boats need to be in so punters can expect a minimum safety standard
to do with watertight integrity, safety gear, how many dunnies /person on liveaboards
how far lights must be visible at night, what soun d signals can be made etc


http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/imarine/19391.asp

[Dave]

For QLD it states that the boat
must float full of water and with all occupants in the boat.. (ie floatation to support the weight) in smooth waters.
Therefore it would be the boat being up right, and taking water to and filling up.
It wouldnt refer to being upside down or self righting as a requirement for smooth waters only

[Dave]

The main reason i asked was I was thinking of being an instructor as there is no one up here that does it and there is a waiting list of a 100 people.
I also have to go to Cairns just to get a jetski licence. Going to cost me about $1000 by the time i pay for flights accom etc

[sweeden]

The main reason i asked was I was thinking of being an instructor as there is no one up here that does it and there is a waiting list of a 100 people.
I also have to go to Cairns just to get a jetski licence. Going to cost me about $1000 by the time i pay for flights accom etc

May be cheaper to pay the fine for not having a PWC license a couple of times first. laugh1

[BigFella]

Sounds valid Dave, however the process of filling with flotation foam is such that the hull will distort if not placed back into the original jig. doh
The factory can do this at a cost,(agro) but mate it would be better financially to sell yours and start from scratch.:D
That way the factory can supply your hull with survey papers, you then need to comply with the local marine authorities for stability, swamp tests and the like.
Contact Rick at Marine Cabs if your serious about this project.
He's the man!yippy

[Doug]

Dave, did you know that crocs can out run a jetski?

[Dave]

lol @ sweeden.. I did consider that but the licence is connected to the drivers licence now so loose points etc... bugga


Doug... luckily the ski will only be used on water so no worries about the croc out running it/me... :o)

Glenn I wasnt even considering using my current boat, I was thinking about a new one and up grade in size and was wondering where we were at with the survey with polycraft. thanks for the info.