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Hi everyone, i have had the 4.55 for nearly a month now so i thought its about time i start my build up thread.
She is a 2005 4.55 side console (in survey) with a 60 yammy 4 stroke. So far im very happy with how it performs after my old tin can, it is a little hard to get used to the lack of speed but ill get there.
Mods so far
Horizontal rod holders
Tacho
New bilge and piping
Nav lights and general electrical tidy up
Mods to come
Casting deck extention
Rear seat infill
Deck lighting
Bow mount lecky
Short bow rails
Upgrade electronics
Be ready for the onslaught of pics :)
Fishmarket
02-07-2010, 08:59
Bring em on Mygyver. How do you find the rod storage ... can you actually fit 5 rods in there as I was a little sceptical when looking in the shop. looks good without the rails too.
Thanks
Matt
i have had 5 rods in them it does work, the reels sit more straight out instead of down its not ideal. They do work well with 3 rods tho all my rods are right hand wind so they sit nice
I like the bare front with no rails too but i dont want to mount my rod holders to the plastic so im putting short (450mm) rails in, rod holders are the cannon adjustable type with rail mount bracket.
few more pics including, the nav lights, tacho and some shots of the deck before casting platform and storage boxes go in.
A quick question does anyone have experience with bow mounted minn kota electrics on a 4.55 or similar, im trying to decide which way to go either 55 or 70lbs thrust. 55 is cheaper and is 12volt but i dont want to find it has not got enough poke.
Any advice would be much appreciated
Got a 55 Minn Kota on my brother's 4.55. Goes fine in creeks and rivers.
Fishmarket
05-07-2010, 16:09
A quick question does anyone have experience with bow mounted minn kota electrics on a 4.55 or similar, im trying to decide which way to go either 55 or 70lbs thrust. 55 is cheaper and is 12volt but i dont want to find it has not got enough poke.
Any advice would be much appreciated
If you are poking around the estuaries then the 55lb will be fine. I'm still tossing up between the Minn Kota ST 55lb with built in iPilot and the 80lb 24v system. The difference is about $800 inc batteries etc. If you want to use the bow mount offshore spot locking reefs or for use in heavy tidal flow then you will need the 80lb for sure. I kinda like one of my front bins for my drinks too!!!!
Cheers for the replies, by the sounds of it a 55 will suit me well. I also have been looking at the ipilot function and not sure if i would get the most out of it, what i think would be really nice is a wireless foot controller. Do the different options represented by letters eg ST, FC etc confuse anyone else? a legend on the Minn Kota website would be nice.
I have the remote wrist control with my Minn Kota; prior to buying it, I watched a few guys using foot controls and a number of them seemed to be holding it! When I queried those guys, their response was along the lines of "foot controls are very hard to operate with any precision if the boat is rocking in a swell" etc.
Very happy with my remote hand control but if I was buying a new one, I would almost certainly go the iPilot option; I like the idea of it being able to hold station within a metre or so of a set location and also the ability to follow a track through snags etc.
Unfortunately, I think my motor is too old to fit one retrospectively and I can't justify buying a new one ATM.
Learjohn
05-07-2010, 22:49
I have the 55lb thrust Minn kota with I-pilot, and it is fantastic. Fully remote control and the spot lock holds against tide and wind within a couple of feet.
Brilliant for casting around snags etc, don't have to frig around with the anchor. yippyyippyyippy
just finished the worlds longest rod holder installation, i bought some cannon adjustable rod holders and turns out they dont come with the backing plate. I searched everywhere and ended up having to buy them from the U.S. 6 weeks later and they finally arrived.
They may cost 3 times more than the normal ones but for the quality and strength they are worth every cent!
Keithy P
13-08-2010, 17:48
Awsome mate, I dont know how I missed this thread but she looks like a good functional rig. Great layout, plenty of room.
Nice one!!
thanks keith, i have some nice mods that will be hopefully finished in the next 3 weeks there will be a swag of pics up then.
started on fitting the framing for my deck extension and rear infill this arvo. Also started cuttin all the plastic lids. Slow process more pics tomorro.
Pirate Pete
14-08-2010, 18:23
It starting to look good McGyver.
Are you going to remove the poly floor to take some of the weight out.
I also love you full safety gear
http://www.polyboatowners.com/2010/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=772&d=1281773625
haha yea pair of glasses and a dirty old rag for the long hair thats all she'll be right.
i will be pulling the covers off to run some draw wires for later but they will go back in again, i dont find her to heavy yet my opinion may change next week when i put the electric and battery up the front.
also pete how did you put my pic up full size?
Pirate Pete
15-08-2010, 07:44
also pete how did you put my pic up full size?
Ahhhhhhhhhhh Grass Hopper. . . . . . . . . . .
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Thats why Im the Post Master General . . . . . . . .
Follow this link.
http://www.polyboatowners.com/2010/vb/showthread.php?t=89
Posting pics is much easier if they are already on the net. I use Photobucket.
"haha yea pair of glasses and a dirty old rag for the long hair thats all she'll be right"
....and the Japanese safety boots!
Doug, my old man calls them that aswell, or japanese riding boots.
Little more done today the plastic is now cut to size. During the week i will pick up some carpet, glue, screws and hinges ready for next weekend. This took forever beause not one side of my poly is symetrical to the other it was a real PITA.
Hi mate, thanks for the pics, my 4.1 is on the way in September and you've given me a few good options to consider. Very neat, fishable rig, congrats.
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cheers Aaron-R, the front box and rear box will both have hatches and they will be carpeted hopefull they look good when its done
4.50_Drifter
17-08-2010, 14:57
It looks sweet mate, how much does Reg Regan charge to do the welding? ;)
haha nice one drifter. more photos boxes ready to be carpeted tomorro
Even my dog thinks the plastic is not bad,
Pirate Pete
20-08-2010, 19:10
Looking Good McGyver
Dont know if poly is good as a chew toy but I do know our Labs love the nylabones they have.
4.50_Drifter
20-08-2010, 20:24
Staffy, or Staffy-X? nice looking dog.
my staffy will chew anything, cheeky little b@stard! love him to bits though, champion dog.
she is bull mastif, great dane and bull arab, and if she is not in my pocket she is not close enough. I was holding it so she wanted it, as long as she stays to the offcuts i dont mind. That was the high density plastic too, i am amazed with the jaw pressure and how dogs dont break teeth.
My frames for the back of my 455 are basically the same but I am leaving 60 mm below to be able to put your toes under while fighting a fish. In the back will be my live bait tank as well.
You are doing a great job mate and it looks great.
Cheers
K
well after a late finish last night and a good session today i am now finished, the pics are
front box and speakers
front box lids open
rear box
rear box lid open
new console door and stereo
i will upload some better day shots tomorro night. Spending tomorro on the water testing the new prop (11 1/4 x 14p)
Keithy P
21-08-2010, 19:37
That is one sharp lookin rig mate!!! well done!!! Cant wait to see it in action!!
4.50_Drifter
21-08-2010, 20:13
Well done mate, very tidy indeed.
My pure staffy husks coconuts.. first time he heard one make a ripping sound and that's it, loves ripping them to bits!
Pirate Pete
22-08-2010, 08:17
She looks the goods McGyver.
All you need to do now is go out & catch fish
sweet lookin ride mate.
:) Paul :)
time to see if paint sticks.
i fitted my new foil this w/e and as it was the local footy grand final there was no chance to water test, hopefull during the week i will get a chance.
Few pics anyway
fitted my batteries and circuit wiring for my electric this arvo, hopefully it will arrive in the next fortnight
also made up a spare wheel holder, there was no other place to put it because of its size (31x9.5x15)
Fishmarket
08-10-2010, 12:56
Thats good work mate. I started my electric on Wednesday ... then realised I had no gas left for the solder torch and could not mount the electric where I wanted it. Should have it sorted this weekend to some degree.
Ta
Matt
Pirate Pete
08-10-2010, 13:00
Both are neat & tidy jobs. 2thumbsup 2thumbsup 2thumbsup
Nice mods, looks clean & tidy too, Grats. I wanted to ask about your all round white light on the side of the console, How do you drive at night with it placed there? it must be blinding.
Cheers
Mark
Fishmarket
14-10-2010, 15:56
Nice mods, looks clean & tidy too, Grats. I wanted to ask about your all round white light on the side of the console, How do you drive at night with it placed there? it must be blinding.
Cheers
Mark
At least you won't see the cops coming!!!!
cheers guys, Mark first off i dont drive with it on and if i did it would not bother me much because at night i stand up while driving (that LED light only shines out sideways at about 20 degrees there is no light straight up).
And fishmarket i will see the cops a long time before they see me. :)
I don't know anything about your location or yourself but In Qld you are required to have a white all round VISIBLE white light on whilst moving & at anchor. I have been so close to running up the arse of guys (gold coast seaway) who don't know this and its dangerous. So many people call it an anchor light and think thats all its for, but thats NOT the case. We did alot of education at the fishing tournaments & changed alot of peoples opinions when they had the full understanding of the requirements. These all round white light are cheap as chips so it surprises me to see people trying to avoid it? Again, this isnt against you its about the use of these lights for safe boating. It would be interesting to do a poll and find out who knows the actual rules. I only know the Qld law on this issue so I dont make any coments about other states. If anyone needs to actually see the rules it is available here http://www.msq.qld.gov.au/~/media/1498febd-26d8-4221-af60-6d0da76778ef/pdf_rec_guide_2010_2011_part_12.pdf What sort of light does PolyCraft supply with its boats std??
Cheers
Mark
I believe the white light is directly from the International Shipping code. They are a requirement here in WA as well.
Mike G
Mark i understand what your saying and i do know that i am breaking the rules if i was in a more busy waterway like the goldcoast seaway i would definately have it on, but 95% of my night time driving is right up the bribie passage in the creeks and real skinny water, i always use my travelling lights.
if you wonder why i dont just put it on all the time, red and green is alot softer on my eyes and the white light from the anchour light LED's is very brilliant and reflects a fair bit which is not what i want. i rely on my eyes adjusting to the dark because i dont use a gps and i only use lights for finding my crab pots.
Also in my above post when i said my light shines out at about 20 degrees i ment it shines out horizontally 10 degrees plus and minus horizontal and 360 degrees around the boat
My crabbing light,
According to the ColRegs (http://www.boatingsafety.com/colregs.htm), lights MUST be displayed between sunset and sunrise and, IF carried, they must also be displayed at times of restricted visibilty between sunrise and sunset (e.g. fog).
The implication is that if you don't have lights, you do not have to display them between sunrise and sunset.
Rule 20
Application
(a)Rules in this part shall be complied with in all weathers.
(b) The Rules concerning lights shall be complied with from sunset to sunrise, and during such times no other lights shall be exhibited, except such lights which cannot be mistaken for the lights specified in these Rules or do not impair their visibility or distinctive character, or interfere with the keeping of a proper look-out.
(c) The lights prescribed by these rules shall, if carried, also be exhibited from sunrise to sunset in restricted visibility and may be exhibited in all other circumstances when it is deemed necessary.
(d) The Rules concerning shapes shall be complied with by day.
(e) The lights and shapes specified in these Rules shall comply with the provisions of Annex I to these Regulations.
Don't take my comments wrong or in a negative way, my original comment was I thought it must be hard for you to see with it on. I took some Photos of the light that came with my Triumph, & I only wish the Boat manufacturers would supply good lights as a std. After our discussions I went out and had a better look at mine. You can see in the pic it has a black bottom & top of the light. When it is fitted it sits high in the air and when I stand the light level is still above my eyes. No night vision impairment at all. Light is kept on the back wall of the floor behind the driver. Anyway you will see this style of light on alot of the American imports & Bass boats as well. Always hope the info helps someone for their own safety.
Cheers
Mark
Well it feels like it has taken a year to arrive but my electric is finally here and mounted. i went with a mounting style similar to barry except mine is not quite as pretty because i did the plastic welding myself. It is a minn kota 80lb terrova with i pilot and after a little test in the dam this morning im very impressed! also im very glad i went 80lb not 55lb
Pirate Pete
10-11-2010, 17:57
The welding doesnt look bad to me.
What heat gun did you use?????
Looks like a top job to me. 2thumbsup
it was a $220 ebay special with rod from polycraft themselves, the main plastic is from polycraft aswell i believe it is console cut off, it was sikaflexed to the hull before welding and the bottom permanent part of the quick release bracket is skrewed and sikaflexed aswell
Looks good MG.Is the 80lb that much different ?.That is a serious tagging gun in the anchor welllaugh1
thanks, im not sure if the 80lb is that huge of a difference but i wouldnt want any less. do you mean my iki jimi nail gun?
Fishmarket
11-11-2010, 12:08
Good work mate. I had mine in the river on big run in tide .. hit the spot lock and it just stayed there ... make sure everyone is hanging on when you hit the rabbit button. Bags more power compared to the 55lb for sure. Super happy with mine and was surprised how easy the remote is to operate, also love the advanced auto pilot with cruise control.
Ta
Matt
bloody excellent work there McGyver, if mine turns half that good I will be happy!
BEAR
thanks fellas, matt im giving it a run tomorro so ill soon see how it really pefforms.
Bear with the plastic welding i found for a neater weld go alot slower and use less heat on my gun i was at level 3 out of 10. after 3 laps around that bracket and other welding (ive used 5m of welding rod now) i think i have it pretty sussed but now im out of welding rod haha
well both the HDS 7's are installed and networked together which didnt take as long as expected. they look pretty impressive and are quite a squeeze in a 4.55 side console but i knew it was going to be.
Here is a few quick pics, when the storm passes im going to get the tractor and give the poly a dunk in the dam and take a few more pics.
Pictures 1. Pirtek fishing challenge winnings, 2. Lowrance gear, 3. Power up on test bench at work, 4. Quick shot installed
few more pics after the dam test
Pirate Pete
22-04-2011, 16:32
Looking Good McGyver
sheebaridgeback
22-04-2011, 17:50
McGyver, did you pick up the HDS7s locally or from the US? I'm looking at picking up one from the US soon while the Aussie Dollar is still strong.
Jason
Looks like a bloody drive in theatre !.Looks good MG.
They look bloke great am green as ,
Cheers Wilko
A bit of pidgeon english Wilco laugh1
thats 'A' grade pidgeon haha, thanks guys im pretty impressed just spent the last 2 days giving them a work out. They both work perfect and ive never used a more easy operating system than the one these units use.
Jason i purchased these in aus at Northside marine in Boondall QLD, price was $2595 for the HDS 7, HDS 7m, network kit AND TRANSDUCER, watch this as alot of the ones ive seen advertised dont come with a transducer. I could have saved around $200 if i bought overseas but for the extra money i like that if i have a problem i can take them back and speak to someone face too face.
Dawn service tomorro with a few rum and milks, then if tuesday is good weather a bit more testing will be done. Yesterday i learnt how to read what prawns look like on the screen, so i cant wait to see whats next!
Sorry am green as envy too many rum chocolates
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