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  • Prowave brand baitboard/livey tank

    Hey folks,

    Just wondering if anyone has any experience with this brand of boards/tanks? I've just spotted this and am seeing an opportunity to save some money (rather than buying the bait/fillet board and a separate livey tank):

    Any thoughts/experiences/opinions appreciated.

    Many ta's

  • #2
    So, after consultation with Polycraft I've decided to go with one of these on the 4.8 Cuddy. Will be installed on the top/middle of the transom, with some reinforcing plates underneath the mounting brackets (website doesn't show the brackets), sandwiching the top transom/gunnel. Ideally mounting should be done before the installation of the rear storage bin, so Polycraft will be installing the tank as a part of the build of the hull.

    I'll post a bit of a review and maybe some pics once it's done.


    • #3
      How is the prowave going mate?

      Happy with how big the tank is? Does it come with a pump? Does it keep your bait alive?

      cheers thinking about getting one for my 5.99


      • #4
        G'day mate,

        Sorry for the slow reply; been a bit busy travelling recently.

        The tank is literally getting fitted to the boat this week (dealer only got the hull last week). However, it turns out that it's not a bolt in job (on a 4.8 anyway). Despite a lot of pondering and measuring by myself and Polycraft, I stupidly managed to overlook the trim of the motor. As a result, just bolting it to the transom (there's room) would have the motor cover hitting the tank when you trim it right up for transport, etc. The work-around has been to both to lift the tank a bit and limit the motor travel (it will still sit above the hull bottom of the hull, but it's a lot of messing around). Not sure of how it'd go on a 5.99; I guess it depends on how close the motor gets to the back of the transom.

        In terms of plumbing, no, it doesn't come with anything. Prowave do, however, make a kit you can purchase:

        (That's bottom draining; they also do a side draining kit).

        In terms of size, I'm happy with it at present. We were down at the dealer a few weeks ago and dummied it up on the hull and it looks spot on for what I wanted. It's 40 litres, so not enormous but it's certainly bit enough to handle quite a few slimeys.

        Overall, it's very well made and I'm pleased with it. I did expect it to be a bit of fiddling to get it to fit, but not quite as much as its turned out to be.

        I'll post up a pic or two in a few weeks, once I've got the boat.
        Last edited by acidstone; 13-03-2019, 10:15.


        • #5
          Finally picked up the boat, with the bait tank installed. We're yet to use, overall I'm pretty pleased with the installation. In the event anyone else looks to do this in the future, there's a few things to be aware of:

          * First, due to dimension of the transom and where the motor mounts, the tilt on the motor has to be limited to prevent the cowl striking the tank. On my installation, this involved putting travel limiters in the hydraulic rams. A side effect of this is that the factory travel locks no longer work. The current work around is ye olde trusty bit of wood. I'll look into a more long term solution in the coming months. The end result of all this is that the motor will tilt sufficiently far that if you put the boat on a flat surface, the motor will still sit clear of the ground. It does, however, mean that if you're launching from a steep river bank or something, there may be clearance issues between the motor and the ground.

          * The tank I purchased is a bottom draining tank. To allow this to work, the tank had to be spaced up around 20mm, to provide space for the nut on the drain fitting. If you go the side-drain, this obviously won't be necessary.

          * In terms of plumbing, I elected to go with a Flow-rite System 4 setup. This is a hideously expensive arrangement and I'm not sure I'd do it again, though it does provide a lot of flexibility in terms of managing the water in the bait tank. A side effect of going with this system is that the skin fittings for the inlet and drain, as well as all the pipe work, needs to be installed with the rear box out (that is, the box behind the rear seat which houses your battery/etc). I had Polycraft install the skin fittings while they did the hull and had the dealer fit the tank and do the plumbing. From the poking around I've done since getting the boat, I'd expect someone with some decent mechancial knowledge should be able to tackle the job, though it would probably take a weekend or so.

          Once we've had it out on the water and given it some use, I'll post comments if there's anything worth mentioning.

          Last edited by acidstone; 10-04-2019, 11:15.


          • #6
            So we recently had the opportunity to use the bait board and rod holders in anger; tank is still to see real use. General perceptions at this stage are:

            * With the installation as it is, the bait board is at a great height for anyone between say 5'8" and 6'2". It's also a very usable space, with plenty of room for bait, tools, etc.
            * The plastic the bait board is made of seems very resilient to scratches, cuts and abrasions. How resilient will be born out over time, but at this point quite impressed.
            * The rear rod holders are very handy when baiting up; you just put the rod in, release the bail arm on the real, drop the hook onto the board and off you go.
            * The layout of the rear rod holders is very good, with the angled outer holders being handy to keep things separated.
            * Whilst we've yet to use it, the tank is definitely large enough to hold a bunch of slimeys or yakas, and access inside is very good indeed. Would also take a few bream or sub-50cm flatties comfortably too.

            * There's no lip on the front of the bait board. This means if you decide to wash it down, any manky baity stuff, goes straight over the seat back if you're not very, very careful, which can become quite infuriating.
            * Trying to use the bait-board drain hole (rear port side of the board) is an exercise in futility. The water simply runs into the gap between board surface and the aluminum surround and into the bait tank (or back of the seat if you've not been careful).
            * The outer rod holders don't seem that strong. We (mis?)used the outer port holder to hold our net and there's now a small crack through the centre of the weld in the corner of the rear surround. Not inspiring for the future plan of running trolling rods out of those holders.

            Regarding the plumbing, the Flow-Rite kit seems very good, though it's only been given a couple of fill/recirculate/drain runs. Fill time is quick, recirculate works a charm and positive pumping for drain is also quite quick. Oxygenation of the water looks to be exxxxcellent. Only downside is that the strainer in the drain hole in the bottom of the tank is an absolute b@st@rd to remove, due to Flow-Rite's 2 piece design (essentially you pull off the mesh section of the strainer, leaving the remainder of the fitting in situ, to be levered out with a flat head screwdriver). Remedy for this is going to be to epoxy the two parts together and then sand down the retention boss/ring/thing so that it can be pulled out easier.

            FUTURE MODS:
            * Install a lip on the front of the bait board to reduce the overflow from the board onto the rear seat when hosing it down. This will be made of UV stablised polyethylene when I can get my hands on some. Note that it won't totally eliminate the problem, as a gap will need to be left for the tank lid bungees....but it should make a big difference.
            * Die grind out the bait board drain hole. Turns out the hole is approximately 4mm smaller than the alloy drain tube it sits above. Increasing the hole diameter will make washing the board down somewhat easier.
            * Seal the gap between the fixed cutting board sections and the bait board surround. This will hopefully reduce the chances for old mank to get caught in those gaps and stink out the tank.
            * Make a tool holder for the port side of the bait board surround. Again, UV stablised PE will be used.
            * Potentially reinforce and re-weld the rear port side corner of the bait board surround. Meantime, I'll keep a close eye on how the crack develops with only rods in the holders.
            Last edited by acidstone; 01-05-2019, 13:43.


            • #7
              Have added a lip to the front of the baitboard, made out of Seaboard. Unfortunately it's not as tidy as I'd intended, but the edges of the board don't perfectly align with the lid and I got bored of trying to make them line up properly.


              Have also sealed around the edges with Selley's all clear and enlarged the drain hole. Will post up as to how effective this has all been once we've had a chance to use it in anger.


              • #8
                Wow acidstone this is the first time reading this thread and that is a lot of info on baitboard/live tank. Hope it all works well and looking forward to seeing the results.
                5.3 walk through cuddy 115hp Suzuki 4 stroke 80lb Minn Kota


                • #9
                  Probably too much ramble really......but just want to try and save time for anyone else who decides to take this path.

                  Reckon it'll be good. Give it another test run in the next few weeks, all going well.


                  • #10
                    Acidstone nice writeup and descriptions. Where the built in tanks too small to plumb up?

                    Know plenty of mates that have Baitmates and rate them. But pricy.
                    Far North Coast NSW

                    "Tight lines and white knuckles"

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